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<div> With hardware passthrough, you can have your 64 bit VM</div><div>hosting 64 bit VMs with no significant performance hit.</div><div><br></div><div>I like to run Win 10 Hyper-V hosting Linux.</div><div>The Linux can run VirtualBox (maybe kvm these days)</div><div>and host your sandboxed Windows Vista.</div><div><br></div><div>With the right excuses, it's not even crazy.</div><div><br></div><div>Running WINE inside Linux has gotten crazy.</div><div>But Windows Subsystem for Linux has gotten crazy good.</div><div>We're getting into lighter weight containers here,</div><div>rather than full blown VMs.</div><div>You can have all your Linux without even a proper hypervisor.</div><div><br></div><div>Then I see somebody still trying to dual boot, and it makes me cry.</div><div> </div><div id="editor_signature"></div><blockquote type="cite">--- Original message --- <br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [u-u] COVID-19 craziness <br><b>From:</b> David Gilbert <uu@dclg.ca> <br><b>To:</b> <u-u@unixunanimous.org> <br><b>Date:</b> Saturday, 04/04/2020 1:32 PM<br><br>On 2020-04-04 12:28, Jim Mercer wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"> so,<br><br> somehow, the surreal nature of our current condition, has caused some people<br> to do strange things.<br><br> for me, it has been to largely migrate my desktop from Windows to Ubuntu/Gnome.<br><br></blockquote><br>Congratulations, really. It is non-trivial and it's trivial things that <br>make it both non-trivial and than later livable. My own quest is to <br>have a Windows that can boot FreeBSD as a guest and have that same <br>FreeBSD that can boot that same windows as a guest. I have this <br>partially working at the moment.<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite"> next on my plate is Eve Online.<br><br> i have found a number of walk-throughs which purport to get it running under<br> wine, however, in my journey to get Vsphere working, i know that getting things<br> running under wine requires generous amounts of luck, patience and googling.<br><br> since Eve is really the only game i play (i don't do console/nintendo/etc,<br> and i recently got addicted, then unaddicted, to games on my phone), i'm also<br> not really familiar with the current state of PC gaming.<br><br> apparently there is this Steam thing, which may or may not have a role in<br> running Eve on linux. but it seems to want to insert itself between me<br> and CCP (the company that i pay for the privilege of playing).<br><br> another route i'm finding on google is Lutris. this seems to be some kinda<br> wrapper around games, which also includes a "linux launcher".<br><br> any advice on this would be appreciated.<br></blockquote><br>It has been awhile since Eve was my passion. There are parts of my <br>personality that don't do well with it. But your goal of gaming on <br>non-windows was my goal when I was playing Eve, so I'll talk about my <br>experiences.<br><br>First of all, as you know, the Eve client (and servers) are written in <br>python. I believe it's Iron Python or a variant, but I'm willing to be <br>missrembering that. There was, at one time, about 7 or 10 years ago, a <br>client for Eve that ran on Linux. In their "great wisdom," CCP decided <br>to discontinue the linux client back then... that it was too much work <br>... or that a feature they wanted to implement was not available in <br>OpenGL, I don't remember.<br><br>But most importantly, any hack you bring to the table to run Eve (be it <br>wine-base, vm-based, or python-linux based), know that any update (from <br>CCP) can break you and you're at the whim of your solution as to when it <br>will be fixed. If I play skyrim with a wine hack; first of all, it <br>doesn't update often, and second, I can refuse an update. Not update <br>until the solution is at hand. I do this to keep my copy of SKSE <br>working. You don't have this choice for eve. In the end, the solution <br>you choose may have you out-of-action for some number of days unless you <br>have a windows install waiting in the wings that is functional enough to <br>tide you over.<br><br>As to "which is best" ... you need a system by which DX10 or DX11 (I <br>forget... I don't think they use 12) is converted to OpenGL. Wine is the <br>source of this nonsense. There is Wine and then there are instances of <br>wine curated and marketed by someone who wants you to pay (and <br>inevitably might provide a slightly better experience when things break).<br><br>Just my 0.02.<br><br>Dave.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>u-u mailing list<br>u-u@unixunanimous.org<br><a href="https://unixunanimous.org/mailman/listinfo/u-u" target="_blank">https://unixunanimous.org/mailman/listinfo/u-u</a><br></blockquote><br>
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