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<div> Google has done the same, only more so, and more often.</div><div>For the same legitimate reasons.</div><div>Anybody considering a boycott of Zoom</div><div>would do better to start boycotting all Google consumer and B2B services.</div><div><br></div><div>Jitsi is too small, to new, and to incomplete</div><div>to have the kinds of problems all successful systems run into.</div><div>But Open Source(tm) licence encumbered software</div><div>is not free from political problems either.</div><div><br></div><div>We've seen a recent fracturing of open source style licence models</div><div>based on divisive and punitive politics and infighting.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally, I'm as concerned about companies that continue to operate in the US</div><div>as I am about companies that operate in Russia or China.</div><div>And as a Canadian I am most concerned about the ethics of Canadian software and services.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's try to minimise the harm from Canadian censorship by companies like Google</div><div>by patronizing companies like Baidu and Yandex that place fewer restrictions,</div><div>and less manipulation on Canadians.</div><div><br></div><div>That said,</div><div>if somebody in this group wants to locally host a Jitsi server,</div><div>I'm willing to give it another shot. </div><div id="editor_signature"></div><blockquote type="cite">--- Original message --- <br><b>Subject:</b> [u-u] ethical objection to Zoom <br><b>From:</b> D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@mimosa.com> <br><b>To:</b> <u-u@mail.unixunanimous.org> <br><b>Date:</b> Saturday, 13/06/2020 1:59 AM<br><br>Zoom the company has dropped some users bowing to pressure from Peoples <br>Republic of China.<br><br>Why is that news? Some of those users are outside of China!<br><<a target="_blank" href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/zoom-cites-chinese-law-to-defend-censorship-of-human-rights-activists/">https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/zoom-cites-chinese-law-to-defend-censorship-of-human-rights-activists/</a>><br><br>They have the right to do so but it isn't right to do so.<br><br>I'd prefer to avoid Zoom<br><br>The GTALUG meeting this week used Jitsi.<br>The Raspberry Pi meetup this week used Google <br>whatever-it-is-called-this-week.<br>UU (as you know) used Zoom this week. (Thanks, Collin, for paying for <br>this).<br><br>All seemed OK to me.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>u-u mailing list<br>u-u@unixunanimous.org<br><a target="_blank" href="https://unixunanimous.org/mailman/listinfo/u-u">https://unixunanimous.org/mailman/listinfo/u-u</a><br></blockquote><br>
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