[u-u] Terminal Emulation
Bill Duncan, 416-697-9315
bduncan at beachnet.org
Tue May 10 19:12:30 EDT 2011
On many occasions while using putty, it gets confused (starts writing stuff
on in weird places on the screen or doesn't clear the screen properly).
It also doesn't handle boundary conditions well in my experience, like
going to the end of the line (does it wrap, or hold its position there?).
I often have to exit out of vi and "tput reset" or something to get it
back into a sane mode..
YMMV, and if it works for you, great. I find cygwin far less of a problem
and, almost resembles the real thing most of the time..
[Claude Morin said:]
>
> I use both PuTTY and Cygwin's rxvt/OpenSSH, and don't have a problem with
> either.
>
> Does anyone have substantive information about PuTTY's shortcomings? To
> this point I've seen only invective. Heck, PuTTY's terminal emulation
> (sorry Vance: here's <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator> a
> definition for you :-) even supports tall/wide characters.
>
> What does SecureCRT do for me that PuTTY doesn't? What functionality
> justifies using a closed-source solution?
>
> -klode
>
> On 10 May 2011 16:19, Bill Duncan, 416-697-9315 <bduncan at beachnet.org>wrote:
>
> > [Andrew Cagney said:]
> > >
> > > <start-key>cygwin<enter>
> > >
> > > Having used both cygwin's ssh and putty, I've found managing SSH keys and
> > > getting them to play nice with other tools much easier with PuTTY
> > (pagent/plink)
> > > than with ssh-agent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "Bill Duncan, 416-697-9315" <bduncan at beachnet.org>
> > > To: u-u at mail.unixunanimous.org
> > > Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:10:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [u-u] Terminal Emulation
> > >
> > > Dave's into S&M..
> > >
> > > You can even start cygwin with
> > >
> > > xterm [your fav options] &
> > >
> > > You'd almost think you were home..
> > >
> > > Dave has to drill down on those @#$%^& menus and set the options
> > > and click some more to start another one..
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > [David Gilbert said:]
> > > >
> > > > On 5/9/2011 6:52 PM, Jim Mercer wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Vance Shipley wrote:
> > > > >> Putty is not a terminal emulator, which is what you really need.
> > > > > it seems to work quite nicely for me as 'xterm' or 'vt220'
> > > >
> > > > I have never had a huge problem with putty and even fairly complex
> > > > terminal emulation (like, say, emacs). Some people make the mistake
> > > > that putty is vt100 ... which it isn't. It's xterm.
> > > >
> > > > You might want to have a look at what your OS and your .bashrc set as
> > > > the default TERM variable. xterms will always set the TERM variable
> > > > when they spawn a shell... but you may be arriving at your shell prompt
> > > > with a blank TERM or one that is set somewhat randomly.
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Duncan,
> > > bduncan at beachnet.org
> > > +1 416 697-9315
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Duncan,
> > bduncan at beachnet.org
> > +1 416 697-9315
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> <div>I use both PuTTY and Cygwin's rxvt/OpenSSH, and don't have a p=
> roblem with either.<div><br></div><div>Does anyone have substantive informa=
> tion about PuTTY's shortcomings? =A0To this point I've seen only in=
> vective. =A0Heck, PuTTY's terminal emulation (sorry Vance:=A0<a href=3D=
> "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator">here's</a>=A0a definit=
> ion for you :-) even supports tall/wide characters.</div>
> <div><br></div><div>What does SecureCRT do for me that PuTTY doesn't? =
> =A0What functionality justifies using a closed-source solution?<br><br></di=
> v><div>-klode</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
> _quote">
> On 10 May 2011 16:19, Bill Duncan, 416-697-9315 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
> ef=3D"mailto:bduncan at beachnet.org">bduncan at beachnet.org</a>></span> wrot=
> e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
> eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
> [Andrew Cagney said:]<br>
> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">><br>
> > <start-key>cygwin<enter><br>
> ><br>
> > Having used both cygwin's ssh and putty, I've found managing S=
> SH keys and<br>
> > getting them to play nice with other tools much easier with PuTTY (pag=
> ent/plink)<br>
> > than with ssh-agent.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ________________________________<br>
> > From: "Bill Duncan, 416-697-9315" <<a href=3D"mailto:bdun=
> can at beachnet.org">bduncan at beachnet.org</a>><br>
> > To: <a href=3D"mailto:u-u at mail.unixunanimous.org">u-u at mail.unixunanimo=
> us.org</a><br>
> > Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:10:00 PM<br>
> > Subject: Re: [u-u] Terminal Emulation<br>
> ><br>
> > Dave's into S&M..<br>
> ><br>
> > You can even start cygwin with<br>
> ><br>
> > =A0 =A0xterm =A0[your fav options] =A0&<br>
> ><br>
> > You'd almost think you were home..<br>
> ><br>
> > Dave has to drill down on those @#$%^& menus and set the options<b=
> r>
> > and click some more to start another one..<br>
> ><br>
> > ;-)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > [David Gilbert said:]<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 5/9/2011 6:52 PM, Jim Mercer wrote:<br>
> > > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Vance Shipley wrot=
> e:<br>
> > > >> Putty is not a terminal emulator, which is what you real=
> ly need.<br>
> > > > it seems to work quite nicely for me as 'xterm' or &=
> #39;vt220'<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I have never had a huge problem with putty and even fairly comple=
> x<br>
> > > terminal emulation (like, say, emacs). =A0Some people make the mi=
> stake<br>
> > > that putty is vt100 ... which it isn't. =A0It's xterm.<br=
> >
> > ><br>
> > > You might want to have a look at what your OS and your .bashrc se=
> t as<br>
> > > the default TERM variable. =A0xterms will always set the TERM var=
> iable<br>
> > > when they spawn a shell... but you may be arriving at your shell =
> prompt<br>
> > > with a blank TERM or one that is set somewhat randomly.<br>
> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > u-u mailing list<br>
> > > <a href=3D"mailto:u-u at mail.unixunanimous.org">u-u at mail.unixunanim=
> ous.org</a><br>
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> =3D"_blank">https://unixunanimous.org/mailman/listinfo/u-u</a><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Bill Duncan,<br>
> > <a href=3D"mailto:bduncan at beachnet.org">bduncan at beachnet.org</a><br>
> > +1 416 697-9315<br>
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> Bill Duncan,<br>
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